Tesla CD Turbine With Scary Steampunk Laser PumpkinCutter Attachment
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Tesla CD Turbine With Scary Steampunk Laser PumpkinCutter Attachment
If you wanna build something high tech, truly scary, cheap, and relatively easy for Halloween, this Steampunk Tesla CD Turbine is it! It uses recycled CD's, Neodymium magnets and a Magnetic Coupling to power tools and implements.
You can order the BEST neodymium super-magnets here:
http://www.kjmagnetics.com/default.asp?PARTNER=mrfixitrick
From experience, I can tell you that it's scary enough to be running a high-speed turbine made from recycled CD's, supermagnets and glue. But running it with a magnetically-coupled Skilsaw blade, now that's TRULY scary! I would not advise anyone to try this. I only did it to prove a point or two, and they haven't quite made this alien technology safe yet.
This Tesla CD Turbine incorporates many subtle and amazing feaures, such as shaftless, bearingless, magnet-separated CD discs driving magnetically-coupled attachments to high speed.(huh?) More on that later.
The CD Turbine works on either compressed air or water pressure. It's cheap and easy to put together, lots of fun and makes cool sounds to boot.
Pumpkin Cuttin' Ceremony with the CD Turbine.
However, the PumpkinCutter Skilsaw Blade Attachment has a big element of danger ...for both people and pumpkins! Don't use it!!...I only use the Saw to draw attention to the wonderful attributes and power of this little CD Turbine device, and things got a little out of hand. I promise to never, hardly ever, do it again. (There was an unrehearsed Pumpkin Cuttin' Ceremony on Halloween, of course...hehe)
I have discovered that this is not a project to take lightly. (With humour, but not lightly.) Under water pressure the Tesla CD Turbine spins a couple of thousand rpm, but under air pressure it is a high-speed dangerous device that must be treated with utmost respect.
Lets remember, folks, this thing is just a CD case, CD's, and magnets. And glue. Lots of glue. (...and keep telling yourself that when you see the magnetically-coupled PumpkinCutter Skilsaw Attachment smoothly wailing away at way-too-high rpm!!)
This device is built for working demonstration purposes; to prove ideas, not for longevity and everyday use. Hence the danger factor. (i.e. yes, things could self-destruct at any time...hehe)
I can really only recommend building one of these with the PumpkinCutter Attachment if you are a truly dedicated experimenter, and promise to wear your suit-of-armour and carry a shield, and cower behide a far-off wall.
We can, however, make a "point" to have some real fun with something a little less on the leading "edge", so to speak. So I suggest to perhaps substitute a Nerf disc for the sawblade! or use a Frisbee! maybe make a CD Turbine-powered Frisbee Impeller?
Hi-Speed Testing of the Tesla CD Turbine
You can order the BEST neodymium super-magnets here:
http://www.kjmagnetics.com/default.asp?PARTNER=mrfixitrick
From experience, I can tell you that it's scary enough to be running a high-speed turbine made from recycled CD's, supermagnets and glue. But running it with a magnetically-coupled Skilsaw blade, now that's TRULY scary! I would not advise anyone to try this. I only did it to prove a point or two, and they haven't quite made this alien technology safe yet.
This Tesla CD Turbine incorporates many subtle and amazing feaures, such as shaftless, bearingless, magnet-separated CD discs driving magnetically-coupled attachments to high speed.(huh?) More on that later.
The CD Turbine works on either compressed air or water pressure. It's cheap and easy to put together, lots of fun and makes cool sounds to boot.
Pumpkin Cuttin' Ceremony with the CD Turbine.
However, the PumpkinCutter Skilsaw Blade Attachment has a big element of danger ...for both people and pumpkins! Don't use it!!...I only use the Saw to draw attention to the wonderful attributes and power of this little CD Turbine device, and things got a little out of hand. I promise to never, hardly ever, do it again. (There was an unrehearsed Pumpkin Cuttin' Ceremony on Halloween, of course...hehe)
I have discovered that this is not a project to take lightly. (With humour, but not lightly.) Under water pressure the Tesla CD Turbine spins a couple of thousand rpm, but under air pressure it is a high-speed dangerous device that must be treated with utmost respect.
Lets remember, folks, this thing is just a CD case, CD's, and magnets. And glue. Lots of glue. (...and keep telling yourself that when you see the magnetically-coupled PumpkinCutter Skilsaw Attachment smoothly wailing away at way-too-high rpm!!)
This device is built for working demonstration purposes; to prove ideas, not for longevity and everyday use. Hence the danger factor. (i.e. yes, things could self-destruct at any time...hehe)
I can really only recommend building one of these with the PumpkinCutter Attachment if you are a truly dedicated experimenter, and promise to wear your suit-of-armour and carry a shield, and cower behide a far-off wall.
We can, however, make a "point" to have some real fun with something a little less on the leading "edge", so to speak. So I suggest to perhaps substitute a Nerf disc for the sawblade! or use a Frisbee! maybe make a CD Turbine-powered Frisbee Impeller?
Hi-Speed Testing of the Tesla CD Turbine
Start With the Basic Tesla CD Turbine
See my previous Instructable on building the basic Tesla Cd Turbine, (see picture below)
Extra parts in this project will be the Magnetic Disc Pack, the Magnetic Coupler, the Blade (use cardboard or foam unless you are crazy like me.) and miscellaneous brass parts to give the SteamPunk look and feel.
You can orderthe BEST neodymium super-magnets here.
Extra parts in this project will be the Magnetic Disc Pack, the Magnetic Coupler, the Blade (use cardboard or foam unless you are crazy like me.) and miscellaneous brass parts to give the SteamPunk look and feel.
You can orderthe BEST neodymium super-magnets here.
Parts List
Here's the Parts and Materials list for the SteamPunk Tesla CD Turbine with Laser PumpkinCutter Attachment: ApproximateTotal Cost = $69.10
1.) Basic Tesla CD Turbine (without disc pack)
CD Case, Nozzle, and Extension. $10.00
CD Spindle Cover
2.) Magnetic Disc Pack:
8 CD's,
60 of 3/8 x 1/32 inch neodymium disc magnets $0.20 each = $12.00
3.) Magnetic Coupler
3 CD's
12 of 1/2 inch x 1/8 inch neodymium disc magnets $0.60 each = $7.20
12 of 3/8 inch x 1/32 inch neodymium disc magnets $0.20 each = $2.40
6 of 1 inch x 1/8 inch teflon furniture pads (Dollar Store $1.00)
4.) Laser Illuminator
Laser Pen (Dollar Store) $1.00
Brass garden-hose fitting to just fit over the pen, (to be used as off-on switch.) $1.50
2 Brass 2 inch x 1/4 inch screws $1.00
2 1/4 inch brass nuts $.50
5.) Miscellaneous
Hot-Glue (package of about 8-10)$3.00
Superglue
Marine Goop (Marine Store)
Nifty brass and glass observation gage. $ 18.00 (Marine Scrapyard)
Brass Drainpipe $5.00 (on sale, Home Depot)
Scrap steel or brass 3/4 inch x 2 inchx 1/8 inch. $.50
Misc plumbing fittings $6.00
7-1/4 inch Skilsaw Blade (On hand)
Skilsaw Guard (on Hand, broken skilsaw)
You can order the BEST neodymium super-magnets from K&J Magnetics here.
1.) Basic Tesla CD Turbine (without disc pack)
CD Case, Nozzle, and Extension. $10.00
CD Spindle Cover
2.) Magnetic Disc Pack:
8 CD's,
60 of 3/8 x 1/32 inch neodymium disc magnets $0.20 each = $12.00
3.) Magnetic Coupler
3 CD's
12 of 1/2 inch x 1/8 inch neodymium disc magnets $0.60 each = $7.20
12 of 3/8 inch x 1/32 inch neodymium disc magnets $0.20 each = $2.40
6 of 1 inch x 1/8 inch teflon furniture pads (Dollar Store $1.00)
4.) Laser Illuminator
Laser Pen (Dollar Store) $1.00
Brass garden-hose fitting to just fit over the pen, (to be used as off-on switch.) $1.50
2 Brass 2 inch x 1/4 inch screws $1.00
2 1/4 inch brass nuts $.50
5.) Miscellaneous
Hot-Glue (package of about 8-10)$3.00
Superglue
Marine Goop (Marine Store)
Nifty brass and glass observation gage. $ 18.00 (Marine Scrapyard)
Brass Drainpipe $5.00 (on sale, Home Depot)
Scrap steel or brass 3/4 inch x 2 inchx 1/8 inch. $.50
Misc plumbing fittings $6.00
7-1/4 inch Skilsaw Blade (On hand)
Skilsaw Guard (on Hand, broken skilsaw)
You can order the BEST neodymium super-magnets from K&J Magnetics here.
Make the CD Turbine Disc Pack
Assemble Disc Pack :
Working with a CD Spindle and your favourite useless CD's, open Spindle Cover and remove CD's from the Spindle. Crazy-glue six 5/16 inch x 1/32 inch neodymium disc magnets in appropriate locations, evenly spaced at edges on one CD, as in the picture.
Use a piece of medium sandpaper to rough up both the surface of the CD where the magnet will sit, and also roughen the mounting surfaces of each of the magnets. Use only a tiny drop of superglue for each magnet.
Flip over CD and carefully glue six more magnets onto CD to correspond with previously glued magnets on the other side. They will tend to pop into place at the correct locations "automagically". Make sure they don't overlap the edge of the disc.
Now put this first CD onto the Spindle of the CD Case. Put a small drop of glue on each magnet, and place another CD on top of the first. Glue on 6 more magnets to that CD. Put small drops of glue on the magnets. Place another CD on top of them. Continue in this manner until you build up a CD disc pack with 8 discs using 60 magnets.
You can order the BEST neodymium super-magnets from K&J Magnetics here.
Working with a CD Spindle and your favourite useless CD's, open Spindle Cover and remove CD's from the Spindle. Crazy-glue six 5/16 inch x 1/32 inch neodymium disc magnets in appropriate locations, evenly spaced at edges on one CD, as in the picture.
Use a piece of medium sandpaper to rough up both the surface of the CD where the magnet will sit, and also roughen the mounting surfaces of each of the magnets. Use only a tiny drop of superglue for each magnet.
Flip over CD and carefully glue six more magnets onto CD to correspond with previously glued magnets on the other side. They will tend to pop into place at the correct locations "automagically". Make sure they don't overlap the edge of the disc.
Now put this first CD onto the Spindle of the CD Case. Put a small drop of glue on each magnet, and place another CD on top of the first. Glue on 6 more magnets to that CD. Put small drops of glue on the magnets. Place another CD on top of them. Continue in this manner until you build up a CD disc pack with 8 discs using 60 magnets.
You can order the BEST neodymium super-magnets from K&J Magnetics here.
CD Spindle Modifications
The Spindle must be modified to allow the fluid pressure to escape. Carefully drill 1/8 "holes in the centre spindle shaft. Allow room between each hole to keep the spindle shaft strong, but put in as many holes as you can easily fit. I used 25 holes (3 high x 8 around, plus one at the top). You will have to clean up the inside of the spindle of shavings, and smooth off the spindle shaft of burrs.
An outlet on the bottom of the CD Spindle is optional and especially recommended for water-powered runs. (see 2nd picture)
An outlet on the bottom of the CD Spindle is optional and especially recommended for water-powered runs. (see 2nd picture)
CD Case Mods
This is how to to modify the CD case to accept an inlet jet nozzle. My first turbine used a 1/4" outlet barbed brass fitting with 1/4 "pipe threads for the nozzle. I used a couple of pipe adapters to go from that to the female garden hose coupling and shut-off valve. I can connect garden hose water pressure directly to this shut-off valve, or switch to compressed air with appropriate fitting.
Make the jet nozzle by using a 1/4 " outlet pipe fitting and crushing the end to form a thinner wider orifice. It takes a little finesse, but hot-glue works well to stick the jet nozzle onto the CD case. Carefully cut a small hole in the side of the case to accept the nozzle, then position the nozzle at approximately the same angle as shown in the pictures. Start building up the hot-glue, a bit at a time, to keep the nozzle in position. Take your time and allow the glue to cool somewhat as you go, so as to not warp the case. Cut or grind the nozzle end flush with the inside of the CD case. Allow everything to fully cool and cure, then add plumbing fittings to adapt to the shut-off valve. Put the previously completed CD Disc pack on the spindle, and install the modified cover. The CD pack should freely rotate. If not, find out what is binding and grind or cut to suit.
Alternately, you could use a plastic nozzle, instead of brass, and glue it in with hot-glue in the same manner. I used a tapered ABS fitting in the CD Turbine seen below.
Make a Magnetic Coupler
Now you need to make a Magnetic Coupler to enjoy getting useful energy out of the Tesla Turbine device. We'll use the same technique as the CD Disc Pack.
Start by placing a CD on top of the previously made CD Disc Pack. Line it up with the other CD's. Next, place a small drop of glue lined up to a magnet point on the CD. Take a 1/2 inch x 1/8 inch neodymium disc magnet and place it at the magnet point, on the glue. It will self-position quickly; just be sure not to let it hang over the edge of the CD as the glue sets.
Repeat at the other 5 magnet points, so that you end up with a CD with six magnets glued to it. Flip it over and glue on six 3/8 x 1/32 inch disc magnets, allowing them to attract and align with the previous six magnets. Again, be sure magnets don't overlap the edge of the CD as the glue sets.
Place this 12-magnet CD on the CD spindle to keep things lined up, then put a small drop of superglue on each of the the six visible magnets. Place a CD on top of this and glue it to the magnets. Glue on six more 3/8x 1/32 magnets, and then another CD. Glue on 6 more magnets, this time use the 1/2 inch x 1/8 inch magnets.
By now you have a 3-disc pack with magnets on both sides. This is the Magnetic Coupler. I added some stick-on Teflon pads to the Turbine side for smooth running,
Be sure the North-South polarity is the same for each glued magnet. In other words, you should end up with all south poles on one side of this Magnetic Coupler and all north on the other, similar to the CD Disc Pack previous.
The Magnetic Coupler should tend to repel the magnets in the CD Disc Pack, when placed at the top of the CD case.
You can order the BEST neodymium super-magnets from K&J Magnetics here.
Start by placing a CD on top of the previously made CD Disc Pack. Line it up with the other CD's. Next, place a small drop of glue lined up to a magnet point on the CD. Take a 1/2 inch x 1/8 inch neodymium disc magnet and place it at the magnet point, on the glue. It will self-position quickly; just be sure not to let it hang over the edge of the CD as the glue sets.
Repeat at the other 5 magnet points, so that you end up with a CD with six magnets glued to it. Flip it over and glue on six 3/8 x 1/32 inch disc magnets, allowing them to attract and align with the previous six magnets. Again, be sure magnets don't overlap the edge of the CD as the glue sets.
Place this 12-magnet CD on the CD spindle to keep things lined up, then put a small drop of superglue on each of the the six visible magnets. Place a CD on top of this and glue it to the magnets. Glue on six more 3/8x 1/32 magnets, and then another CD. Glue on 6 more magnets, this time use the 1/2 inch x 1/8 inch magnets.
By now you have a 3-disc pack with magnets on both sides. This is the Magnetic Coupler. I added some stick-on Teflon pads to the Turbine side for smooth running,
Be sure the North-South polarity is the same for each glued magnet. In other words, you should end up with all south poles on one side of this Magnetic Coupler and all north on the other, similar to the CD Disc Pack previous.
The Magnetic Coupler should tend to repel the magnets in the CD Disc Pack, when placed at the top of the CD case.
You can order the BEST neodymium super-magnets from K&J Magnetics here.
Skilsaw Attachment
The Skilsaw Blade Attachment" is very dangerous to actually use, but it demonstrates the power and versatility of the Tesla CD Turbine. Other attachments, implements, or tools are readily adapted instead of the Skilsaw Blade. For example, an auto alternator could be adapted, which will be the topic of a new Instructable.
The basic idea of the Skilsaw Blade Attachment is to use the Magnetic Coupler to magnetically clamp on the blade, while keeping it lined up at the centre hole. It is preferable to put a cut-off 5/8 " bolt or pin in the centre to keep the blade centered at high speeds. (any off-center wobble would be sheer disaster!)
That's it...the blade just clamps on magnetically to the Magnetic Coupler. The Magnetic Coupler just rides on the top of the CD case, while engaging the magnets in the CDCase. Scared enough yet??
Well, ok, I did originally test run the blade without a guard and without a shaft to hold the blade on; I lived through it, I won't do that again! My new setup is much more robust, with little or no possibility of blade fly-off. There is both a guard, and a stationary shaft attached to a screwed-in plate. It all worked really well during the PumpkinCuttin Ceremony, other than the guard got plugged up with pumpkin guts and slowed the blade down!
The basic idea of the Skilsaw Blade Attachment is to use the Magnetic Coupler to magnetically clamp on the blade, while keeping it lined up at the centre hole. It is preferable to put a cut-off 5/8 " bolt or pin in the centre to keep the blade centered at high speeds. (any off-center wobble would be sheer disaster!)
That's it...the blade just clamps on magnetically to the Magnetic Coupler. The Magnetic Coupler just rides on the top of the CD case, while engaging the magnets in the CDCase. Scared enough yet??
Well, ok, I did originally test run the blade without a guard and without a shaft to hold the blade on; I lived through it, I won't do that again! My new setup is much more robust, with little or no possibility of blade fly-off. There is both a guard, and a stationary shaft attached to a screwed-in plate. It all worked really well during the PumpkinCuttin Ceremony, other than the guard got plugged up with pumpkin guts and slowed the blade down!
Build the Guard
Having a guard with a spinning saw blade is very important! (thanks to everyone who kept reminding me of this idea.)
I started with a 7-1/4 inch Skilsaw inner guard and hack-sawed a piece off to make it conform roughly to the CD Case. Then I hot-glued it into position where it touched at various points of the CD Case, and at the connector that goes to the PVC inlet pipe. Check clearances as you go so the blade is centered in the guard.
I started with a 7-1/4 inch Skilsaw inner guard and hack-sawed a piece off to make it conform roughly to the CD Case. Then I hot-glued it into position where it touched at various points of the CD Case, and at the connector that goes to the PVC inlet pipe. Check clearances as you go so the blade is centered in the guard.
SteamPunk It !!
Ok now that the basic Tesla CD Turbine is built, we can add details to give it a great SteamPunk look.
I started by adding a brass drainpipe, cutting off the end so it would conform to the turbine case and cutting it to fit over the fluid inlet/handle. This piece was hot-glued securely in place and it becomes the handle. (make sure there is room for fittings, shut-off valve, etc.)
I started by adding a brass drainpipe, cutting off the end so it would conform to the turbine case and cutting it to fit over the fluid inlet/handle. This piece was hot-glued securely in place and it becomes the handle. (make sure there is room for fittings, shut-off valve, etc.)
Add a Brass Outlet Port
I used the cut-off piece of brass pipe to make a brass outlet. I smoothed the edges with a sanding drum on the Dremel Tool, then mounted it to the bottom of the CD Case, using hot-glue. It points roughly away from the operator.
Install the Laser Cut Illuminator
Note: Don't point the pointy end of the laser into peoples' eyes. Also, don't point the pointy end of the Blade near people at all. Especially if it is running.
The Laser Cut Illuminator is basically a laser pen, with a pipe fitting engaged with a screw, acting as a switch, with another screw as elevation adjuster.
The Laser Cut Illuminator is basically a laser pen, with a pipe fitting engaged with a screw, acting as a switch, with another screw as elevation adjuster.
Install the Special Really Important Blade Guide
The Special Really Important Blade Guide is a recent welcome addition to the Skilsaw Attachment of the Tesla CD Turbine. It has two purposes. It's main purpose is to guide the blade should it have a sudden desire to want to leave the Magnetic Coupler. A second purpose is to attach a handle so both hands can be used and because it looks cool and is a brass piece I just had to use somewhere on the machine. (hehe)
Finishing Touches
Finish up by making sure there are no sharp edges(!) , that the glue is well reinforced, and that the Blade and Magnetic coupler move freely with the Magnetic Disc Pack which is inside the CD Case. I connected a brass garden hose shut-off valve at the air inlet and used an adapter to go to garden hose from the air chuck. I can easily convert from water to air pressure and back.
Please remember that running this turbine on air pressure is a very dangerous thing...it will certainly BLOW UP like a bomb with shrapnel if used on straight 120 psi without a load. If conditions are perfect, this magnetic version may withstand 11,000 rpm or more before blowing. But conditions are seldom perfect, and chances are that the CD's in the Magnetic Disc Pack could separate at much lower rpm than 11,000. Try to design the guard and CD Case to take this into account. Don't do demos of this turbine and expect it to be safe each time just because it was the last few times. Plastic discs can both flow and stress-crack and can fly apart at any time. Take all precautions!
Please remember that running this turbine on air pressure is a very dangerous thing...it will certainly BLOW UP like a bomb with shrapnel if used on straight 120 psi without a load. If conditions are perfect, this magnetic version may withstand 11,000 rpm or more before blowing. But conditions are seldom perfect, and chances are that the CD's in the Magnetic Disc Pack could separate at much lower rpm than 11,000. Try to design the guard and CD Case to take this into account. Don't do demos of this turbine and expect it to be safe each time just because it was the last few times. Plastic discs can both flow and stress-crack and can fly apart at any time. Take all precautions!
Pumpkin Cuttin' Ceremony
Did the thing really work?? The machine performed reasonably well, and the PUMPKIN ACTUALLY GOT CUT.
More importantly, I DIDN'T get cut and actually felt reasonably safe with this new design.
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More importantly, I DIDN'T get cut and actually felt reasonably safe with this new design.
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Parting Shots & Videos
A few last pictures of the CD Turbine, plus some fun videos of the new Kitchen version of the CD Turbine. Be sure to check out my new Instructable on the Kitchen model at https://www.instructables.com/id/Turkey-Time-Tesla-CD-Turbine/
Also, check out my CD Turbine movie playlists in my you-tube / MrfixitRick
This is a video of the new Kitchen version running off the kitchen sink faucet.
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This is the Magnetic Coupler acting as a Magnetic SuperStirrer. Kitchen Model CD Turbine again.
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CD Turbine, Kitchen Edition and Dancing Magnetic Balls
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Super SaladSpinner!
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Blender Attachment...not real fast, but it does work!
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Also, check out my CD Turbine movie playlists in my you-tube / MrfixitRick
This is a video of the new Kitchen version running off the kitchen sink faucet.
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This is the Magnetic Coupler acting as a Magnetic SuperStirrer. Kitchen Model CD Turbine again.
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CD Turbine, Kitchen Edition and Dancing Magnetic Balls
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Super SaladSpinner!
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Blender Attachment...not real fast, but it does work!
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